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Steve Provizer's avatar

The word "leisurely" applied to Coltrane is almost an oxymoron. So, to say that Trane jettisoned a steady beat in order to develop his ideas in a leisurely way is hard to buy. The picture is complex, of course. His playing had always created as dense a space as possible (sheets of sound, overblowing, harmonics); techniques with which one could say he was stretching or circumventing chord changes. Then, modal tunes like "Impressions" opened up, to some extent, the space for extended ideas. But at a certain point, it became not about being able to extend an idea rooted in Western harmony or traditional jazz "beats", but about a new way to make each moment as intense and personal as possible. Pharaoh and Shepp, Ali, Alice. McCoy saw the specific tonality of a keyboard instrument was unneccesary and Elvin felt that he too was made unneccesary. If this was about eschewing a "steady" beat to extend ideas, it was only so peripherally.

Jan Lindelöf's avatar

Spring ... 1966 I visited Chicago and together with Bob Koester, a Saturday night, went to The Plugged Nickel to listen to John Coltrane and his band ...

When we entered the room … the band was gone … no McCoy, no Garrison and no Elvin!

Instead … two drummers, one bassist, Alice on piano and Coltrane and for me one unknown saxplayer …but no rhythm … but a lot of screaming, from both Coltrane and Sanders … AND the audiance!

A very strange experience … especially the fact that the rhythm was gone … for me and probably for most of his fans.

But years later Pharoah Sanders came along … and John Coltrane was back …

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